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Windows 7

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 9:54 am
by kudos
Windows 7 is now RTM (released to manufacturing) (build 7600.16385) with general retail availability set for October 22, 2009.

Re: Windows 7

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 10:14 am
by addonsfan
That's my birthday! I know what I want. :P

Re: Windows 7

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 4:15 pm
by André
Here's the full list of when various different groups will get it.

ISV/IHV - ISV (Independent software vendor) and IHV (Independent hardware vendor) Partners will be able to download Windows 7 RTM from Microsoft Connect or MSDN on August 6th.
Partner Program Gold/Certified Members - August 16th. By October 1st, the remaining languages will become available to download.
Action Pack Subscribers - August 23rd. By October 1st, the remaining languages will become available to download.
OEMs - Approximately 2 days after Microsoft officially RTM
Volume License with Software Assurance - August 7th via the Volume License Service Center (VLSC). The rest of the languages for Windows 7 RTM should be available within a couple of weeks after that.
Volume License without Software Assurance - September 1 (downloadable from the Volume License Service Center)
MSDN/TechNet - August 6th and remaining languages by October 1st.
Everyone else - October 22nd, general availability date.

and
7600.16385.090713-1255 is confirmed as the official RTM build, according to Steven Sinofsky "today after all the validation checks were met, we signed off and declared build 7600.16385 as RTM."

Re: Windows 7

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 7:32 pm
by AXEMAN
When these groups get win 7 is it testing at that point or final versions thanks :)

Re: Windows 7

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 1:37 am
by André
Windows 7 is now totally complete. The version that these different groups will be getting over the next few months will be that version, build 7600.16385, and that will be the version that you get if you buy it on DVD on October 22nd. The only changes that will come from now on to Windows 7 will be in the form of Windows Updates, the same as every version of Windows before it.

Re: Windows 7

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 4:49 pm
by abfan123
Ok, I've got a little bit of spare time and installed Windows 7 Ultimate x64 build 7600.
It seems to work quite fine, But I couldn't find any major changes since Windows Vista so far, And it seems to be just about as fast as Vista.

Re: Windows 7

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 8:45 pm
by André
Windows 7 was a LOT of under the hood changes. Just about everything was given a once over. Microsoft says that it's more efficient with CPU and RAM and, this one I can attest to, it gives you better battery life. It's also much faster on SSDs over time than Vista or XP.

I agree with you that there aren't a ton of changes from Vista but they are there. A couple of the main changes are Libraries, the whole taskbar, Aero Peek, and couple new keyboard shortcuts. See: Features new to Windows 7.

Re: Windows 7

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 3:37 am
by addonsfan
Yeah, I really like the libraries feature, but I don't like the new taskbar. This type of taskbar is the reason I couldn't ever get too comfortable with Linux.

Re: Windows 7

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 1:14 pm
by abfan123
Ok, I've used Win7 for one day and found the new taskbar features quite convenient.
Well, Here's the story:
I have a pretty small SATA HDD (About 160GB) and I wanted to install Win7 on it. This hard drive is inserted into my PC as secondary hard drive for a few years already and Windows Vista keep telling me that the hard disk is going to fail soon (Yeah, Right, Soon, Because it's telling me that for a few years already)
During the Win7 setup it have said me that it can't install Windows on this hard drive because the hard drive is going to fail soon! (WTF?! How soon?!)
So I've had to find another HDD. I've looked and found 3 or 4 even older IDE hard drives from my older PCs with a capacity range from 20GB to 80GB
So I've took the 80GB drive, Connected it and installed Win7 on it.
So the thing is... IDE is many times slower than SATA, Right? That's probably why I'm not feeling any difference in speed between Win7 and Vista. But ok, I'll make sure to buy a SSD soon and install Win7 on it.
Other than that, It's features are very useful and convenient to use. I like Windows 7.
You may find it stupid, But I've returned UAC to the highest level. Not sure why, But I feel safer when UAC works like in Vista rather than the default level in Win7. I guess I'll buy Win7 when it's going to be available in stores.

Re: Windows 7

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 8:54 pm
by André
PATA (IDE), as long as you have a computer made after 2005, should have the ATA-7 standard which provides 133MB/s which is plenty fast for regular hard drives. Even the fastest hard drives can't get more than 100MB/s.

Re: Windows 7

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 9:52 pm
by abfan123
I have 2 PCs with the same mainboard: Gigabyte's G31M-S2L.
I'm not sure what type of PATA does it have. I'm not having any complaints on the speed of Windows 7. It's fast enough for me. I'm just saying that it's about as fast as Vista, And I've never had any complaints on the Vista's speed.
But the memory usage is indeed lower in Win7 than in Vista.
I thought SATA II can get up to about 300MB/S, No?

Re: Windows 7

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 5:58 am
by André
SATA II can indeed theoretically transfer data at speeds up to 300MB/s but real world speeds are a bit slower. Either way, it doesn't matter. Rotational hard disks simply cannot supply data at anywhere close to that speed. All consumer based drives, as far as I know, cannot supply data at anything faster then 100 MB/s except for very small bursts which simply doesn't make use of the full speeds of SATA II. SATA at 150MB/s and ATA-7 at 133MB/s theoretical bandwidth is more than enough for all consumer hard drives.

Re: Windows 7

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 8:34 pm
by AXEMAN
Hello everyone re win 7. It is said to be available October 22, 2009. So my question is does anyone know what the price is for 1 copy???.Also i
am going to buy a laptop i wonder if after this date October 22, 2009. would a portion already with say windows 7 basic???. Or should i just buy the latop and buy my copy of win 7???. I would prefer to buy a laptop clean nothing on it at all i hate this acer and other brands??. Like my pc that i had built from the box up i picked everything that is in it and i didnot need acer and those things like acer .I only needed my xp pro disk so if i had to format or an :) ything the xp pro was all i needed to run it no other diskes or driver"s???. :)

Re: Windows 7

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:46 pm
by André
US
Upgrade Editions
Home Premium $119.99
Professional $199.99
Ultimate $219.99

Full Version
Home Premium $199.99
Professional $299.99
Ultimate $319.99

EU
Upgrade Editions
Home Premium €119.99
Professional €285.00
Ultimate €299.00

Full Version
Home Premium €199.99
Professional €309.00
Ultimate €319.00

UK
Upgrade Editions
Home Premium £79.99
Professional £189.99
Ultimate £199.99

Full Version
Home Premium £149.9
Professional £219.99
Ultimate £229.99

Re: Windows 7

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:54 pm
by darth
What do you get in the full version in respect to the upgrade version.?

Re: Windows 7

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:00 am
by kudos
All Windows 7 disks are the same (Home/Pro/Ultimate, Full/Upgrade), the only difference is the license (and key) that comes with it. An upgrade license requires that you have an genuine copy of XP or Vista which is verified during installation.

Re: Windows 7

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:24 am
by darth
Thanks kudos for information. Having already used one of the RC's, the final release should be a winner.

I've read that college students will be able to purchase it for 60 dollars I believe the amount was.

chow

Re: Windows 7

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:31 am
by André
You can get Windows 7 Home Premium for $30 if you...
http://www.win741.com/ wrote:
  • You qualify if you have a valid .EDU e-mail OR an e-mail address through one of the educational institutions listed here.
  • You are enrolled in coursework, current proof [of] enrollment may be required in the United States.
  • Your PC is able to run Windows 7 - use this tool to check. THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT!
...from Win741.

Re: Windows 7

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 3:13 pm
by statm1
kudos wrote:All Windows 7 disks are the same (Home/Pro/Ultimate, Full/Upgrade), the only difference is the license (and key) that comes with it. An upgrade license requires that you have an genuine copy of XP or Vista which is verified during installation.
Technically this is true with both Vista and Windows 7 but there is a slight difference on Windows 7. The retail image for any particular SKU that is going to be on DVDs in October will have a setting that restricts you to whatever SKU you actually buy.

So in other words if you buy Windows 7 Home Premium at Walmart, it gives you Home Premium media and a Home Premium key but it will not give you the option of installing say Windows 7 Professional from that same disc like you could with a Windows Vista DVD. They lock a disc to a particular SKU, a SKU being HP or Pro or Ultimate. But in reality each disc still has all the SKUs and the ability to install any of the SKUs its just one file that determines which one that disc will allow you to install.

There is a way rip that disc though and reburn the image of the disc without that one file which makes the disc act like a Vista disc again.

Re: Windows 7

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:36 pm
by André
There's a little program that will remove that file from the image so you don't have to go fooling around with extracting everything and then making a proper bootable ISO.