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use of Outlook - will it cost money soon?

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 10:34 pm
by UFO UFO
this is what is written from : http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=878462

"MSN Hotmail no longer supports Distributed Authoring and Versioning (DAV) for free user accounts. Outlook Express uses the DAV interface to connect to Hotmail. Only paid Hotmail accounts will work correctly with Outlook Express. If you configured Outlook Express or Outlook to access your Hotmail account before DAV support was ended, you may still be able to use Outlook Express to open a free Hotmail account. However, eventually Hotmail will no longer support DAV for all free Hotmail accounts. "

does it mean that all of those who use outlook expres or outlook , will need to pay for using them in hotmail.com?

(i have the free mail of hotmail)

so annoying if it's true !

do you know of another free email that you can use in a program without any problem?

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 10:40 pm
by André
I know you can use Gmail that way.

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 10:47 pm
by UFO UFO
is it totally free , without problem, and could be use in Outlook express or another program ?

if so,how can i sign in , and how can i setup the configurations?

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 11:01 pm
by André
is it totally free , without problem, and could be use in Outlook express or another program ?
Yes, Yes, and Yea.
how can i sign in
You need an invite. If you want one, PM me your email address and I will send you one.
and how can i setup the configurations?
Everything is explained in the options panel of Gmail.

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 6:13 am
by Coolnat2004
Ehh.. hotmail is slow anyway, and blocked at several places. Gmail will allow you POP3 access, which will let you use pretty much any email program with it. I'd suggest Mail.app if you're on a Mac, or Mozilla Thunderbird on everything else (Incl. Windows).

I hate Outlook.. :-\

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 9:31 am
by UFO UFO
"hotmail is slow anyway"
- i agree, it is kinda slow.

"I hate Outlook"
- i hate outlook in office. i think outlook express is ok, only because it's very simple , but since it's too basic, i prefer incredimail.

i don't understand why it is hard to register to gmail . it's free, so why not letting us a simple way to register. i've heard that you need to be invited by another user of gmail to be registered. is it true? do you have some more info about gmail?

btw, i've heard too much about pop3 and imapp. what are they ? is pop3 better than all ?

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 12:34 pm
by hornakapopolis
I think GMail's excuse is that they're using the invite syste because they're still in Beta. It's hard to find someone without a free invite or 50 to give out, though. _DrDrrae_ offered above.

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 2:51 pm
by Circumlocutus
I use FreePops to aggregate my mail from numerous accounts (Hotmail, Gmail, Yahoo! Mail) into Outlook.

As it works as a loopback proxy, it should work with every other mail client out there.

Bonuses of using FreePops:
  • Can co-operate with loopback anti-spam (i.e. spampal), & anti-virus (i.e. Avast!) email protection.
    It works with hotmail accounts opened after MSN decided to stop co-operating with Outlook and/or Outlook Express.
    Hotmail accounts can also be checked for spam & viruses.
    Allows full control over email account as if it was a POP3 account (i.e. keep mail on server indefinitely or for x days, some other web->pop services delete it immediately).
    It allows mail from GMail accounts to be downloaded to POP3 Clients more than once (Gmail's POP3 service will only allow the mail to go to the 1st computer that downloads it).
    Its plugin system allows it to work with 100's of webmail services.
    By the way, did I mention that it is Free?

    And best of all:
    • Windows is not the only Operating System that is runs on! (it supports Mac, Linux, & BeOS also)
Sorry to sound like a Fanboi, but after trying the more obvious Hotmail (Hotmail Popper) & Yahoo! (Ypops!) aggregators, I found FreePops to be light years ahead of any of the other free solutions to web to pop mail downloaders.

Re: use of Outlook - will it cost money soon?

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 4:40 pm
by vtel57
UFO UFO wrote:this is what is written from : http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=878462

"MSN Hotmail no longer supports Distributed Authoring and Versioning (DAV) for free user accounts. Outlook Express uses the DAV interface to connect to Hotmail. Only paid Hotmail accounts will work correctly with Outlook Express. If you configured Outlook Express or Outlook to access your Hotmail account before DAV support was ended, you may still be able to use Outlook Express to open a free Hotmail account. However, eventually Hotmail will no longer support DAV for all free Hotmail accounts. "

does it mean that all of those who use outlook expres or outlook , will need to pay for using them in hotmail.com?

(i have the free mail of hotmail)

so annoying if it's true !

do you know of another free email that you can use in a program without any problem?
Pre-existing Hotmail accounts were grandfathered into the new rules regarding WebDav access. I received an email from Hotmail about 6 months ago telling me not to worry that my Hotmail account would always be accessible through my Outlook or OE. It's only the new accounts opened since this ruling has taken place that will be affected.

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 5:56 am
by TOMaxwell
Eeughh

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 6:30 am
by Coolnat2004
Terranaut wrote:I use FreePops to aggregate my mail from numerous accounts (Hotmail, Gmail, Yahoo! Mail) into Outlook.
That's awesome! But, do you know of any mail aggregators that work with Microsoft Exchange Outlook Web Access Server thing.. ? See, my school uses an Exchange server, but they blocked the ports on the student server for accessing it via Outlook, or any other email client for that matter. So, you can only use it via their webmail, which is clumsy and there is no way to be notified of new messages, much less forward them.

Er.. any out there?

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 2:37 pm
by vtel57
Another very good email retrieval program is ePrompter. I've been using it for 3+ years. It'll retrieve your Hotmail, Gmail, Yahoo, Go.com, Email.com, + any POP accounts. Check it out...

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Oh, and it's free! :)

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 7:20 pm
by Moby
Terranaut wrote:I use FreePops to aggregate my mail from numerous accounts (Hotmail, Gmail, Yahoo! Mail) into Outlook.
How on earth do you download it? I have never managed to understand these Sourceforge sites :x