Avant's vertical scroll bar width changed size?

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Re: Avant's vertical scroll bar width changed size?

Post by Steves.Place » Sat Feb 27, 2010 9:49 pm

Huh, that is weird. Here is my comparison screen shots.

Your windows are Maxed, close but not quite exact. However the borders are still narrow in mine when maxed. Huh a bit perplexing this is.
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Re: Avant's vertical scroll bar width changed size?

Post by kudos » Sat Feb 27, 2010 9:56 pm

Yes, your scroll bars are certainly narrower.

Since you have your theme saved, can you change to the "Windows Stardard" one and check there.

Even better - create a new user in your Windows system, then log in as that user and test there. The new user should default to the standard theme and it would prove if it is some setting in your profile that causes it.

You can always zip up you theme and upload it here - or upload it to one of the many free file sharing sites and provide the link.
 
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Re: Avant's vertical scroll bar width changed size?

Post by Steves.Place » Sat Feb 27, 2010 10:16 pm

Oh bugger, I was afraid you might ask me to do that. Every time I mess around in the appearance section, every time, no matter what I save or don't save.

My ICONS change size automatically to invisibly small, even when reloading my fav theme setting, it takes me hours to reset those ICONS to a visible state by trial and error method. So, please don't ask me to do that.

I'll except the judgment that Sara and I might have this caused by something particular in our computers. But that icon thing is a real nightmare. I do not want to play around in there ever again, now that I finally got the dame things right. *Grins*
I'm not even going to try that under another user. Merlin and God only know what might happen with a MSoft OS?

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PS . . . In reply #20 I meant to say scroll bars are still narrow when window is maxed.
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Re: Avant's vertical scroll bar width changed size?

Post by kudos » Sat Feb 27, 2010 10:24 pm

No worries Steve - it was only a suggestion.

Who knows, maybe Avant v11.8 or v12.x may magically resolve it (with a little help from Merlin, of course).
 
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Re: Avant's vertical scroll bar width changed size?

Post by Steves.Place » Sat Feb 27, 2010 10:44 pm

Did you notice in your screen shots that in Avant the scroll bar is still slightly narrower, it is hard to chatch but there none the less, although both are wide, Orca is way wider than I would ever need.

If you look at my Orca screen shot, that is the right size for me to use or like the scroll bars. Firefox is the same size as Orch.

Huh, you liked my Merlin reference? Cool. 8)

Here's hoping the next upgrades will Magically fix the prob. *Grins while waving my magic wand at the screen and in-canting* "Presto Fixo SCROLL BAR and frame Border!" :think:
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Re: Avant's vertical scroll bar width changed size?

Post by kudos » Sat Feb 27, 2010 11:03 pm

I guess that you missed this when I posted my screenshots:
kudos wrote:The sizes of the scroll bars seems to be determined by the rendering engine because in my tests Avant's match IE's and Orca's matched Firefox's.
Computers speak binary, so your chant should be:

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01010000 01110010 01100101 01110011 01110100 01101111 00100000 01000110 01101001 01111000 01101111 00100000 01010011 01000011 01010010 01001111 01001100 01001100 00100000 01000010 01000001 01010010 00100000 01100001 01101110 01100100 00100000 01100110 01110010 01100001 01101101 01100101 00100000 01000010 01101111 01110010 01100100 01100101 01110010 00100001
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Re: Avant's vertical scroll bar width changed size?

Post by Steves.Place » Sat Feb 27, 2010 11:11 pm

Huh, very good.

Wow would have guessed that Kudos has a sense of humor.

I'm going to try setting my dpi to 120%. I fear doing this but it should not interfere with Icon sizes. I have other resolution problems related to this 150% size as well.

Here's hoping for good luck. and a little magic spell to help.
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Re: Avant's vertical scroll bar width changed size?

Post by kudos » Sat Feb 27, 2010 11:13 pm

Steves.Place wrote:1101 0101 0010 0010 1000 1000 1010 1010
How rude!
 
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Re: Avant's vertical scroll bar width changed size?

Post by Steves.Place » Sun Feb 28, 2010 12:37 am

Huh, it wasn't meant to be rude. But Magic is funny that way.:)

Ok note my new setting in my profile/left side bar and here are two new screen shots. My Avant scroll bars are marginally wider but as I feared the icons in the right hand side (task bar) got invisibly small again. Setting are 120% dpi, display is 1280x960 and I had to alter some of the magnification sizes in both Avant and Orca. Frame narrowed size is still there in both in NOT maximized windows.
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Re: Avant's vertical scroll bar width changed size?

Post by kudos » Sun Feb 28, 2010 1:05 am

To rebuild your icons, type this into a command prompt window:

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del "%USERPROFILE%\Local Settings\Application Data\iconcache.db"
shutdown -r -t 00
The second line reboots your computer, which is necessary for the icon cache to be rebuilt.
 
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Re: Avant's vertical scroll bar width changed size?

Post by Steves.Place » Sun Feb 28, 2010 2:22 am

Umm, It figures you might have a fix for that, but before I try that can you explain it a bit better, after all it says del user profile? Which makes me hesitate. Send reply in an e-mail if you prefer? You do have that, right? *Grins*

Oh and do I enter the whole thing in the RUN box or do I enter the reboot one after or as a second entry after I run the first entry?

Also I tried the large and extra large fonts and it really didn't make any diffidence, in fact I had to reset everything and just could not get some things in there to work properly after having done that, I opted to go back to my last Fav profile which has it set as Fonts normal but with all my other quirky little setting as I like them. :)

However with 120% set I can hardly even see those gray dialogue boxes, much less read anything on them? If it was not for my trusty magnifier attached to my laser mouse middle button, I could not even use a computer. Don't these developers realize these dialogue boxes are too small for everyone let alone old people with sight problems?
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Re: Avant's vertical scroll bar width changed size?

Post by Steves.Place » Sun Feb 28, 2010 3:14 am

OK. I reset everything back the way it was and that seems to have included my task bar icons as well, so there was no need for me to try that. I still would like more info on just how do fix that in the future and how that re-setting (del user profile) works. But only when you feel you have time to elaborate on that. As for now all is back the way it was, (Thank Merlin)

After playing around all afternoon on those setting I still have a narrow scroll bar and a frame gap but only in both Orca and Avant with the gap, and Avant with the narrow scroll bar. Again here's hoping the newer versions will fix that.

And Thanks Kudos and Sara for all your input and help on that.
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Re: Avant's vertical scroll bar width changed size?

Post by AXEMAN » Tue Mar 02, 2010 10:33 pm

I find the whole thing to be to big and the sidebar takes up more space it is odd . :)

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