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What is the difference between Avant and Orca?

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 10:41 pm
by Brainetree
Please excuse my ignorance, but in downloading both Avant and Orca, I see no difference between them whatsoever. What am I missing here? Thank you for listening.

Re: What is the difference between Avant and Orca?

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 11:16 pm
by bigC
They each use a different rendering engine. Avant uses Internet Explorer's (Trident), Orca uses Firefox's (Gecko).

Re: What is the difference between Avant and Orca?

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 3:00 am
by Brainetree
Thank you for explaining. Appreciate it.

Re: What is the difference between Avant and Orca?

Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 2:40 pm
by redcore
heres what my experience using avant

i been using avant since 2005 somewhere in that year

anyway this is list of features i know to help you out the difference

orca

- faster bandwith surfing ,downloading and video streaming ( stickam, blogtv..etc)
- faster website loading

Avant

- Built for surfing , not suitable for youtube due to outdated update of the avant browser aren't
compitable with youtube
- Download Engine are based on I.e which very slow download

So far orca is the best software that nearly beats firefox. :D

Re: What is the difference between Avant and Orca?

Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 2:48 pm
by kudos
redcore wrote:Avant

- Built for surfing , not suitable for youtube due to outdated update of the avant browser aren't
compitable with youtube
Avant has no problems with YouTube (provided that you have IE7 or IE8 installed on your system).

Re: What is the difference between Avant and Orca?

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 1:37 am
by mathman
One difference that I have found annoying is in the operation of download managing. Avant does it very nicely and lets you do other things at the same time. In Orca the download manager locks Orca, so you can't do anything while its downloading.

Re: What is the difference between Avant and Orca?

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 10:03 am
by kudos
Not true - I can browse without a problem even while downloading multiple files. Maybe you need to apply the networking speed tweak for Orca.

Re: What is the difference between Avant and Orca?

Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 8:22 pm
by mathman
The problem I have is not with speed. It is an absolute freeze. For example I cannot even reduce to the bottom of the screen (click on _) or even move the box (download manager) while it is going.

Re: What is the difference between Avant and Orca?

Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 8:25 pm
by kudos
What else do you have running on your system?
Which addons/plugins/extensions are active in Orca?

Re: What is the difference between Avant and Orca?

Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 8:43 pm
by redcore
Mathman
The problem I have is not with speed. It is an absolute freeze. For example I cannot even reduce to the bottom of the screen (click on _) or even move the box (download manager) while it is going.
-- i think u should try my solution if that works

1. Clear your cache
2. Scan ur files anti virus and clean them
3.Defrag
4. Do cleanupd disk probably some left out files that u didnt know got infected
5. Tweaking like everytime kudos will ask u if u had some connection trouble etc.
6.on cmd type ipconfig /flushdns
7.Msconfig settings - try to google it how to use msconfig if u didnt know about it

How to access Msconfig
Start > Run> type Msconfig

8.Restart

9.again clear the cache on internet explorer

try this solution if this works ^_^

Re: What is the difference between Avant and Orca?

Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 9:24 pm
by mathman
kudos wrote:What else do you have running on your system?
Which addons/plugins/extensions are active in Orca?
The only other things running (which take up very little cpu time) are anti-virus, etc. The plugins and extensions are the same as I've listed before (including the realplayer streaming capture, which doesn't matter, since the problem occurs with or without it). For example - right now system idle is roughly 80% and Orca the major part of the remainder. I'm also listening to some music - this is taking about 2% of the cpu time.

Re: What is the difference between Avant and Orca?

Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 9:28 pm
by mathman
Further note: I downloaded an audio file with the task manager display on. Most of the time was taken by Orca and System - my music was unaffected.

Re: What is the difference between Avant and Orca?

Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 10:49 pm
by kudos
How are you downloading? Right-click >> Save File? Or another method?

Re: What is the difference between Avant and Orca?

Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 10:56 pm
by redcore
lol wow ur problem is complicated my orca is fine ... hmm i think if that doesnt work prepare to format ur computer if that doesnt help u should try avant :)

Re: What is the difference between Avant and Orca?

Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 11:20 pm
by kudos
redcore wrote:if that doesnt work prepare to format ur computer
That is never an option - nor is that a good support tip.

Re: What is the difference between Avant and Orca?

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 3:44 pm
by redcore
dunno lol just trying to help seems more complicated prolly virus or something else slowing his computer down usually format fix everything

Re: What is the difference between Avant and Orca?

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 8:24 pm
by mathman
kudos wrote:How are you downloading? Right-click >> Save File? Or another method?
right click & save file.

For redcore - I have Avira sweeping nightly as well as being on all the time, also firewall, so a virus is extremely unlikely. It is not a question of slowing things down - it is an absolute lockup while downloading, which fortunately is fairly fast - a 35 Meg file will take about 5 sec. During this time I cannot do anything in Orca, but if I use Avant or Firefox I don't encounter any such problem.

Re: What is the difference between Avant and Orca?

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 10:34 pm
by mathman
Could there be something in my setup for browser download manager in Orca that could be doing this?

Re: What is the difference between Avant and Orca?

Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 1:11 am
by kudos
I believe that in past conversations that we have deleted all Orca settings so it is unlikely to be that. Did you remove the streaming capture extension completely?

Re: What is the difference between Avant and Orca?

Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 1:51 am
by mathman
It had been on, so I deleted it and tried again. It makes no difference.

As for the download manager - there are settings. They don't get deleted, only changed. For example after a download, the download manager closes - the default had been to leave it open.