Lost bookmarks and settings after power outage

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Lost bookmarks and settings after power outage

Post by Nixxxed » Wed Jun 03, 2009 10:23 pm

We had a very short power blip this afternoon. When I rebooted and opened Orca, I discovered it has reverted to the starting point. All my settings, bookmarks, and autofills are gone.

Is there a way to recover any of it? I looked around the Program Files folder, but I can't make heads or tails of what information gets stored where...

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Re: Lost bookmarks and settings after power outage

Post by kudos » Wed Jun 03, 2009 10:31 pm

Do you use online storage? If so, have you logged back into it?
The local files are stored in the user's %appdata% folder - are you logged into Windows as the same user?
 
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Re: Lost bookmarks and settings after power outage

Post by Nixxxed » Wed Jun 03, 2009 10:44 pm

No, I don't use the online storage. I log in under Owner - in fact, I have it set to only show that profile on startup.

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Re: Lost bookmarks and settings after power outage

Post by kudos » Wed Jun 03, 2009 10:56 pm

In a Windows run box, type in "%appdata%\Orca Profiles\" (including the quotes).
It should open up the settings folder in Windows Explorer. Do you see any folders within it?
 
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Re: Lost bookmarks and settings after power outage

Post by Nixxxed » Wed Jun 03, 2009 11:00 pm

Yes: .default and .temp

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Post by kudos » Wed Jun 03, 2009 11:16 pm

OK, .default is where the settings are stored (see Avant Configuration Files and Their Purposes)
Just in case(?) you were logged in as another user, search for "Orca Profiles" in C:\Documents and Settings\
 
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Re: Lost bookmarks and settings after power outage

Post by Nixxxed » Wed Jun 03, 2009 11:34 pm

OK - found it. All the files seem to be current, as in created after I rebooted. Even the files with the .bak extension (which I'm assuming are backups) are current. Which ones do I need to replace? I found the bookmarkbackups folder, and the latest file in it is from last night.

Also, do I need both a moz and mozdata folder?

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Re: Lost bookmarks and settings after power outage

Post by kudos » Wed Jun 03, 2009 11:44 pm

Do you mean that you found another Orca Profiles folder from another Windows user?
If all of the files are current, ie recent timestamps, then I am afraid that the files have been overwritten.
The mozdata folder (including the bookmarkbackups subfolder) stores Gecko/Mozilla settings and is not relevant.
Maybe you can try somethiing like Recuva to try to recover files.

Out of interest, what version of Orca are you using? Settings files should not be lost/corrupted that easily.
 
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Re: Lost bookmarks and settings after power outage

Post by Nixxxed » Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:03 am

No - there are only 2 profiles on the machine - Owner and Admin. I always log in under Owner. I'm using the latest version, 1.1 Build 2. But I'll give Recuva a try. I already have it installed - I just didn't think about it.

I appreciate your help! If you need any other info from me about the corruption, I'll be happy to help. The only file that didn't reset was favorder.dat, with a timestamp from last night. But since all my favorites are gone, it's useless, right? :lol:

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Re: Lost bookmarks and settings after power outage

Post by kudos » Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:08 am

FYI: The latest version of Orca is 1.1 build 6, I recommend upgrading - download link.
 
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Re: Lost bookmarks and settings after power outage

Post by Nixxxed » Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:21 am

I just noticed that. The Check for New Version link under Help says I'm using the latest. Now Help/About Orca says I have 1.1 build 2. But I looked in the folder where I keep my software installers, and I had a copy of 1.1 build 3 from April. So, until 4 pm today, I was using 1.1 build 3.

Should I wipe Orca from the PC (delete the settings folders, run CCleaner, etc) and start completely over? Or just uninstall and reinstall over what's left?

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Re: Lost bookmarks and settings after power outage

Post by kudos » Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:43 am

There's no harm in doing a simple update, but since you are starting afresh then you may as well go the whole hog: uninstall Orca, remove the Orca and Orca Profiles folders, do a clean up and then reinstall. Maybe set an scheduled backup of the Orca Profiles folder too ;-)
 
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Re: Lost bookmarks and settings after power outage

Post by Nixxxed » Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:49 am

kudos wrote:Maybe set an scheduled backup of the Orca Profiles folder too ;-)
I'm doing it right now! Thanks again - I appreciate your time. Have a good one!

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Re: Lost bookmarks and settings after power outage

Post by Nixxxed » Thu Jun 04, 2009 1:29 am

Just a quick follow-up:

I uninstalled, deleted all the Settings folders, deleted the Program Files folder, and then ran a search and deleted stuff like the prefetch and an .ini file I found. I ran CCleaner, including the registry cleaner, rebooted, and reinstalled Orca.

My favorites are now back, including the few I remember creating this afternoon. "Use IE Favorites" is NOT checked in the Misc section of Orca Option, so I haven't the slightest idea where they were hiding. The settings are still at the beginning stage, and my Autofills are still missing.

Wow. :wtf:

But the browser is running faster than before, so that's a good thing! HA Thanks again - I appreciate it.

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Re: Lost bookmarks and settings after power outage

Post by mbrazil » Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:36 pm

kudos wrote:Settings files should not be lost/corrupted that easily.

This happens a lot more often than it should. Something should be reworked to prevent file damage like this.

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Re: Lost bookmarks and settings after power outage

Post by AXEMAN » Tue Jan 05, 2010 11:34 pm

Hello there guys save all your data you do not lose onto a blank cd. Then if you lose anything you will have it saved.PS update the cd as you need to. I do this myself really helps if you have to format. :)

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Re: Lost bookmarks and settings after power outage

Post by mbrazil » Fri Jan 08, 2010 8:21 pm

AXEMAN wrote:Hello there guys save all your data you do not lose onto a blank cd. Then if you lose anything you will have it saved.PS update the cd as you need to. I do this myself really helps if you have to format. :)
Quite true, AXEMAN, but we wouldn't have to do this if Orca (and Avant) did a better job of saving and maintaining its own files. For example, the browser could save backup files automatically after a successful startup so that, at worst, all that would be lost in a power glitch or other situation resulting in damaged files would be changes and additions from the current session.

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