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Orca / Firefox

Post by ance » Fri Mar 20, 2009 7:24 am

Hello!

Can I run Orca only if FF is installed? :eh:

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Re: Orca / Firefox

Post by bksening » Fri Mar 20, 2009 8:26 am

The good news for Orca is that it is a completely self contained browser. You do *not* need to have Firefox installed and you can run Orca just fine!

But the bonus is that many Firefox extensions and user scripts made for Firefox will also run in Orca. You can check out the list at: http://forum.avantbrowser.com/viewtopic ... 74&t=23965

See also: http://forum.avantbrowser.com/viewtopic ... 74&t=23962

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Re: Orca / Firefox

Post by ance » Fri Mar 20, 2009 8:50 am

That's great! :clap:

With Firefox I get automatic program updates (a few days ago 3.0.6 -> 3.0.7), does Orca also update automatic? :eh:

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Re: Orca / Firefox

Post by kudos » Fri Mar 20, 2009 9:40 am

Orca will notify you when an update is available if you have enabled:
Tools -> Orca Browser Options... -> Miscellaneous -> Notify me when there is a new version available

But you must do the update yourself.

Note that Orca and Firefox do not update together.
Orca may not be as frequent, but updates are always complete packages.

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Re: Orca / Firefox

Post by ance » Fri Mar 20, 2009 12:32 pm

kudos wrote: Orca may not be as frequent, but updates are always complete packages.
So Orca is not as safe as Firefox? #-o

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Re: Orca / Firefox

Post by kudos » Fri Mar 20, 2009 12:38 pm

Not true. They both use the same engine so safety isn't an issue.
Updates don't just focus on safety, and not all updates are related to the engine.
And sometimes they introduce new bugs!
I'm just saying that if Firefox is updated tomorrow, Orca may take a few days longer.
But it is of no concern because Orca has additional benefits not found in Firefox.

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Re: Orca / Firefox

Post by ance » Fri Mar 20, 2009 3:13 pm

I know, I like the Flashblocker and Bannerblocker :clap:

One more question: I always thought that ActiveX is not supported by Firefox engine, why is there an option to turn off ActiveX in Orca? Is it a bug taken from Avant? :eh:

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Re: Orca / Firefox

Post by bksening » Fri Mar 20, 2009 9:28 pm

Good point ance! I just noticed Tools menu > Disable ActiveX. You are, of course, correct. Orca uses the Firefox/Gecko engine, which does not support ActiveX. As far as I know, ActiveX support has not been additionally implemented for Orca, so there is no need for a menu item to disable ActiveX.

This has been submitted in this bug report: http://forum.avantbrowser.com/tracker.php?p=2&t=287

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Re: Orca / Firefox

Post by ance » Fri Mar 20, 2009 10:57 pm

Ok :wink:

Another question: Is there any reason to use Orca instead of K-Meleon? K-Meleon also uses the firefox engine and it offers flashblock, bannerblock and so on too. I read that K-Meleon is a one man show, Orca also? :eh:

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Re: Orca / Firefox

Post by bksening » Sat Mar 21, 2009 7:39 am

I am a strong advocate of personally trying many different browsers, so that you personally experience and understand which browsers/features/pros/cons you like of each one. Whether you use Orca or K-Meleon is up to you.

From what I understand, Orca is Anderson Che's second show (his first show being Avant browser :-). I don't know if Jasmine does any development, but she's great at debugging, QA, and customer support.

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Re: Orca / Firefox

Post by bksening » Fri May 08, 2009 6:07 pm

One significant difference I just found between Orca (current 1.1b3) and K-Meleon (current 1.5.2) is that K-Meleon is still based on old Gecko 1.8, while Orca is using up-to-date Gecko 1.9 (at least FF 3.0.8 anyway).

That definitely puts my preference to choosing Orca. Although I hear that K-Meleon may or may not be updated to Gecko 1.9.x by summer 2009?

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Re: Orca / Firefox

Post by cork1958 » Tue May 19, 2009 2:19 am

I am in the process of removing K-Meleon and installing Orca on my 6 machines.

K-Meleon is good, but I'm liking this Orca. Don't need 4 full time browsers anyway. Also use IE8 and Seamonkey.

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Re: Orca / Firefox

Post by statm1 » Tue May 19, 2009 4:48 am

That is a very good point that I was going to bring up. I have had K-Meleon installed in the past but I never really kept it for one because it just looks old to me kinda like how IE6 looked and for another they are just taking way to long to get out a Gecko 1.9 browser. Its like Avant ONLY supporting IE6.
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Interferences Orca / Firefox

Post by lefreak » Fri May 29, 2009 3:59 am

So if have understand all correctly, there are absolutely no interferences between Orca + Firefox?

If I install Orca, there will be no changes to any of the files of Firefox? And if I change settings in Firefox/Orca or add new bookmarks, it will only apply to the the one I'm working with?

Then I would give it a chance, maybe to complement Avant :)

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Re: Orca / Firefox

Post by bksening » Fri May 29, 2009 5:32 am

Yes, lefreak, the Orca installation is completely separate from any Firefox installation and will not affect any Firefox installed files. And any configuration changes or bookmarks made to one of them has absolutely no effect on the other browser.

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