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Avant 2012 constantly freezes

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:52 pm
by dutchdummy
I have Avant Browser 2012 Build 8 running under Firefox mode and it freezes up to a dozen times a day on me. It usually happens as it's loading a new page, and I have to close the program & start over (it usually does allow me to close with the exit button, rather than having to kill it via Windows Task Manager). The irony is that I used to have this problem with previous versions of Avant, which is why for the past year or so I'd been using Orca Browser. I had assumed that the problem was with Avant's Internet Explorer rendering engine, as I'd had no such issues with the Firefox-based Orca. However, even though I'm using Firefox as the rendering engine for Avant 2012, I'm back to Avant's constant freezing, and it's making me nuts. I'm about to go back to Orca, warts and all - at least it's stable - but I really like Avant 2012's fast page loads. When it does load, that is.

Specs:
- Windows 7 Ultimate (64 bit)
- Intel Core i5 Lynnfield 2.8 Ghz Quad Core
- 8 GB DDR3 1333 memory
- Sapphire Radeon HD 5570 1 GB PCI-e graphics card
- Roboform 7.6.3 (currently compatible with Avant 2012)
- No Avant add-ons listed in options

Re: Avant 2012 constantly freezes

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:06 am
by xiaobing
When you using Avant firefox engine, have you enabled roboform in your system tray (not the roboform toolbar)?

Re: Avant 2012 constantly freezes

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:12 am
by dutchdummy
xiaobing wrote:When you using Avant firefox engine, have you enabled roboform in your system tray (not the roboform toolbar)?
It was enabled, but I just disabled it. Thanks for the suggestion...let's see if that makes a difference.

Re: Avant 2012 constantly freezes

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 4:36 am
by AbelAbel
it's a known problem that latest firefox conflicts with roboform.

Re: Avant 2012 constantly freezes

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:41 pm
by dutchdummy
Still having the same problems with Avant constantly crashing at least a dozen times a day or more. I've deleted the Roboform toolbar .exe file so it would never load again but to no effect. What usually happens is that the web page I'm on will freeze and I'll get a permanent 'busy' icon. At this point, Avant will still allow me to close the program by clicking the 'Close' button, but then I'll get an error message saying that Firefox has stopped working. At that point, I have to pull up Task Manager and kill it. To simplify things, I've created a script that automatically closes Avant and Firefox with one click, then placed a shortcut to it on my desktop. I find myself using it quite a lot.

Are any other users having the same problem? Is it an Avant bug or could there be something I'm running on my system that's causing this?

Re: Avant 2012 constantly freezes

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 11:01 pm
by darth
Vista and windows 7 have something call tcp autotuning. In A vista machine I once had half loading web sites, freezing,slow loading, etc and etc,.does seen Window 7 may also these problems.

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Re: Avant 2012 constantly freezes

Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 2:50 am
by Jasmine
dutchdummy wrote:What usually happens is that the web page I'm on will freeze and I'll get a permanent 'busy' icon.
At this point, Avant will still allow me to close the program by clicking the 'Close' button, but then I'll get an error message saying that Firefox has stopped working.
Apart from stopping working, are there other errors? Will all page turn grey with the message the page needs refreshing?
Does the problem happen only over the sites with flash?

Re: Avant 2012 constantly freezes

Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 4:07 pm
by dutchdummy
Jasmine wrote:
dutchdummy wrote:What usually happens is that the web page I'm on will freeze and I'll get a permanent 'busy' icon.
At this point, Avant will still allow me to close the program by clicking the 'Close' button, but then I'll get an error message saying that Firefox has stopped working.
Apart from stopping working, are there other errors? Will all page turn grey with the message the page needs refreshing?
Does the problem happen only over the sites with flash?
The page turns grey but does not give a message saying the page needs refreshing. I couldn't refresh it even if it did, because at that point I can no longer access any of the buttons or menus (the only exception is that I can still click the 'close' button). I haven't noticed if it only does this on sites trying to display flash animations...I will try to be aware of it from now on. Still, this issue never occurred with Orca browser (which is the primary reason why I migrated over to that from Avant in the first place).

Re: Avant 2012 constantly freezes

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 2:52 am
by mbrazil
Have you tried using the Avant tray icon? I'm also getting numerous crashes, most of them firefox.exe crashes and an occasional Avant crash, and when firefox crashes, all I do is click the Avant icon and choose Refresh All (or just press Shift + F5). The crashes are still annoying, but it's not quite as annoying and time consuming to refresh all open tabs as it is to restart Avant. Whenever all your tabs turn gray, whether or not there's a message saying Firefox had a problem, it's because firefox.exe crashed.

BTW, I'm running 2012 Ultimate pre-alpha 102 with the Firefox 9 engine.

Re: Avant 2012 constantly freezes

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 9:27 pm
by AXEMAN
I just want to add something windows 7 64 bit is causeing a lot of problems. I go to manny sites and read it would appear that windows 7 64 bit is a problem at some places i removed all those sites. Because i have a brand new computer but it is windows 7 64 bit . So i am still useing xp pro less problems but still there are manny .I want to use the new killer computer but i find the problems to fustrateing i can't have stress or i could have a second heart attack don't want that to happen. PS i don't remember the sites i removed this was awhile ago.So this just somethings i saw. :)

Re: Avant 2012 constantly freezes

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:04 am
by Jasmine
dutchdummy wrote:
The page turns grey but does not give a message saying the page needs refreshing. I couldn't refresh it even if it did, because at that point I can no longer access any of the buttons or menus (the only exception is that I can still click the 'close' button). I haven't noticed if it only does this on sites trying to display flash animations...I will try to be aware of it from now on. Still, this issue never occurred with Orca browser (which is the primary reason why I migrated over to that from Avant in the first place).
Hello, could you try latest avant browser 2012 pre-alpha 105 and let us know whether this problem is gone?

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Re: Avant 2012 constantly freezes

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 4:43 am
by ramseyle
I am also having the same problem with Avant freezing. I am running the 2012 Version 8 on Windows 7 (x32) Enterprise. I am running on the Internet Explorer engine (IE8). I can unfreeze the browser by clearing internet cache and restarting. I also have RoboForm installed and enabled (7.6.8).

Re: Avant 2012 constantly freezes

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 6:49 pm
by road_dancer
Just to add to this, I've been encountering this issue a lot over the last few months.

I've been using Avant Browser for years, since before even Firefox did Tabbed Browsing, and love the UI, however, the reliability recently has been appalling. Happens with IE and FF versions, and as a guess I'd say is more likely to be Flash related as I can seem to improve the reliability by disabling flash via tools, however, IE, FF and Chrome run normally don't have the same problems.

The program avant.exe version 12.0.0.0 stopped interacting with Windows and was closed. To see if more information about the problem is available, check the problem history in the Action Center control panel.
Process ID: 778
Start Time: 01ccd2ea43acb439
Termination Time: 21
Application Path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Avant Browser\avant.exe
Report Id: 03813cb5-3ede-11e1-9d54-5063139f4ca4


avant.exe
12.0.0.0
778
01ccd2ea43acb439
21
C:\Program Files (x86)\Avant Browser\avant.exe
03813cb5-3ede-11e1-9d54-5063139f4ca4
55006E006B006E006F0077006E0000000000


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Binary data:


In Words

0000: 006E0055 006E006B 0077006F 0000006E
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In Bytes

0000: 55 00 6E 00 6B 00 6E 00 U.n.k.n.
0008: 6F 00 77 00 6E 00 00 00 o.w.n...
0010: 00 00 ..

Code: Select all

- <Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
- <System>
  <Provider Name="Application Hang" /> 
  <EventID Qualifiers="0">1002</EventID> 
  <Level>2</Level> 
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  <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords> 
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  <EventRecordID>66676</EventRecordID> 
  <Channel>Application</Channel> 
  <Computer>training-VAIO</Computer> 
  <Security /> 
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- <EventData>
  <Data>avant.exe</Data> 
  <Data>12.0.0.0</Data> 
  <Data>778</Data> 
  <Data>01ccd2ea43acb439</Data> 
  <Data>21</Data> 
  <Data>C:\Program Files (x86)\Avant Browser\avant.exe</Data> 
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  <Binary>55006E006B006E006F0077006E0000000000</Binary> 
  </EventData>
  </Event>

Re: Avant 2012 constantly freezes

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 7:34 am
by AbelAbel
It should be a conflict between firefox and flash plugin.When using firefox, sometimes the flash crashes, but the other part of the page keeps intact. For making the flash play again, I try to press f5 to refress the page. Unfortunately that can't make flash replay. I have to restart Firefox.

Re: Avant 2012 constantly freezes

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:48 am
by Jasmine
road_dancer wrote:Just to add to this, I've been encountering this issue a lot over the last few months.

I've been using Avant Browser for years, since before even Firefox did Tabbed Browsing, and love the UI, however, the reliability recently has been appalling. Happens with IE and FF versions, and as a guess I'd say is more likely to be Flash related as I can seem to improve the reliability by disabling flash via tools, however, IE, FF and Chrome run normally don't have the same problems.
The grey page not only happens to firefox rendering engine but also to ie rendering engine?
Disabling the flash animations can make the problem disappear?

Re: Avant 2012 constantly freezes

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:37 pm
by road_dancer
Jasmine wrote: The grey page not only happens to firefox rendering engine but also to ie rendering engine?
Disabling the flash animations can make the problem disappear?
Yes it happens in both Rendering Engines, in fact, the reason I moved over to Avant Ultimate, was to see if the FF engine was any more stable then the IE engine (it doesn't appear to be).

Disabling Flash Animations seems to help, and the lock up seems to occur most often when loading flash adverts, but that's a guess.

Re: Avant 2012 constantly freezes

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 6:09 am
by Jasmine
road_dancer wrote:Disabling Flash Animations seems to help, and the lock up seems to occur most often when loading flash adverts, but that's a guess.
Could you disable flash animations for a while and see whether the grey page won't appear? That helps us narrow down the problem.
If disabling flash doesn't prevent it from happening, we need a little more details about what you have done and how it happens, the click sequence,etc.

Re: Avant 2012 constantly freezes

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 8:35 am
by Jasmine
To road_dancer,

could you check whether the error message disappear in the avant browser ultimate pre-alpha 118?
http://dl.filekicker.com/send/file/1422 ... abbeta.exe