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Post by Dreamer » Sat Jul 15, 2006 11:34 pm

Continued from this thread
hornakapopolis wrote:DrDrrae was kind enough to supply us with some new rank images a few months ago and now we'll supplement those with some new ranks.

A few have asked about the Moderator Emeritus rank we added a while ago. That rank was made for the many members that have held a moderator or administrator title here at the forum but have moved on and are no longer able to help out... either as much as they like or at all, in some cases. This rank was created out of appreciation since they've relinquished their rank.

However, to prevent any confusion as to whether they're still active members of the board, we've decided to change this name to AvantGuard. (Without the "Mod" term there, hopefully they won't get any misdirected PMs, e-mails, etc.) It's an intentional mis-spelling (;)) pointing out that they were some of the first here "guarding" the forum and browser and, additionally, are Avant fans.

Here are the remaining new ranks and post count requirements.

Image Newbie (0)
Image Fan (5)
Image Contributor (50)
Image Avant Fanatic (100)
Image Semi-Avantic (200)
Image Avantic (300)
Image Avantic Deluxe (500)
Image Avantic Elite (800)
Image Semi-Guru (1200)
Image Guru (1500)
Image Avant Guru (2000)
Image Avantus Maximus (3500)
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Image Developer
Image Administrator
Image Moderator
Image Support Staff
Image AvantGuard


I like it, but my rank "Avantic Deluxe" looks bit like "Newbie". Also, I'm more "Orcanic" than Avantic now. :wink:

Edit: Also, why "Administrator" is not orange? I t would be more intuitive and clearer IMO.


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Post by André » Sun Jul 16, 2006 12:48 am

I made a bunch of them but never an orange Admin one. I might try it out and see how I like it. Who knows.

Edit: I made an orange admin rank and another AvantGuard rank which I think fits better.


Here are all the ones I made.
Image Newbie
Image Fan
Image Contributor
Image Avant Fanatic
Image Semi-Avantic
Image Avantic
Image Avantic Deluxe
Image Avantic Elite
Image Semi-Guru
Image Guru
Image Avant Guru
Image Avantus Maximus
Image Spammer
Image Banned
Image Banned 2
Image Mod Emeritus
Image Mod Emeritus 2
Image AvantGuard
Image AvantGuard 2
Image Avant Guard
Image Support Staff
Image Avant Support
Image Orca Support
Image Moderator
Image Moderator 2
Image Grafix
Image Administrator
Image Administrator 2
Image Administrator 3
Image Developer
Image Developer 2
Image DrDrrae
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Post by hornakapopolis » Sun Jul 16, 2006 2:41 am

I changed the Admin & AvantGuard

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Post by KY Dave » Sun Jul 16, 2006 11:29 am

IMO - They look a little bit ostentatious when displayed in the forums.

Check it out! There is your USERNAME, then your POSITION TITLE, then your POSITION TITLE again in the RANK IMAGE.

If you are going to have the POSITION TITLE in the RANK IMAGE, then don't have the POSITION TITLE in the RANK (I don't think it is possible though)

I would suggest using something besides the RANK TITLE in the image.
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Post by Dreamer » Sun Jul 16, 2006 3:23 pm

OK, so my opinion:
Check it out! There is your USERNAME, then your POSITION TITLE, then your POSITION TITLE again in the RANK IMAGE.
Yes, a bit unclear, but not as important IMO.

This is more important:

Rank names are quite unclear. Wannabe Spammer and Spammer?? looks like a joke, but I'm not sure about it...

Rank images are even more unclear, e.g. Newbie and Avantic Deluxe (extra) - Image Image

Not a bad idea, but if you can see only one rank, it is really unclear.

I suggest just one 'progress bar', maybe with different colors, hope you know what I mean - something like this (but not so big steps maybe):

Image Newbie
Image Fan
Image Avantic
Image Guru

Image ?
Image ?

About Mod Emeritus / AvantGuard - if they still have mod permission and they use it from time to time, then it should be green, if not, grey.
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Post by André » Sun Jul 16, 2006 3:50 pm

Rank names are quite unclear. Wannabe Spammer and Spammer?? looks like a joke, but I'm not sure about it...
These were left over from a few administrations ago (Not SweetLou). Let's just say his lack of undserstanding of English created a language barrier.
Rank images are even more unclear, e.g. Newbie and Avantic Deluxe (extra) - Image Image
I think the rank titles will explain it enough. If the person really cares, though. They can searh the forum for an explanation on the ranks. (They should have already read the threads in the announcement section anyway before posting anyway even though they don't)


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Post by angeldust » Sun Jul 16, 2006 4:59 pm

Yep we be just like the common folk now, members of the great unwashed. :LOL: Heck we ended up being olive instead of a nice dark cyan or mauve ... I mean olive? Only things that should have olive are a dry martini or a pizza. ;)

I think that the mods should be a darker green & support staff the current light green helps to identify them upon a quick glance.
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Post by hornakapopolis » Sun Jul 16, 2006 5:48 pm

Personally, I think there' way too much thought going into it. ;)

The mods had actually discussed the double rank names before, but I think the final thought was, "Who really cares?" It more has to do with how phpBB is setup anyway. Removing the name from the image could cause the same confusion that Dreamer mentions about the double color ranks, too. Besides, if anyone is really just having a forum-rank-placed-somewhere-twice away from having their ego sated, I think the rest of us could live with that, couldn't we? And if someone really thinks we're pretentious by having it there twice, then they're probably not the type of person that would make me care about their opinions anyhow.

One thing we could do, though, would be to have the rank names added to the rank images, just as the staff's are, and getting rid of the text. But, I think we may have mentioned this is the mod discussion, then you have to deal with removing it from the templates... and any new templates added in the future... and removing it there makes it that much more difficult to change images or ranks in the future (Maybe not "difficult", but certainly more of a pain than it should be.)... and if the original creator is no longer around, then whoever does do it has to match the existing style or recreate them all from scratch.

So, like I said, we could beat this into the ground, but I figure it's a little image and a little word line... hardly worth the discussion.

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Re: New Ranks

Post by KY Dave » Sun Jul 16, 2006 6:50 pm

[EDIT] REMOVED IMAGES [/EDIT]
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Post by André » Sun Jul 16, 2006 7:06 pm

I don't really like them. They look to sharp. The ones I made are softer (except for the orange admin rank) Did you make those yourself, though?
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Post by KY Dave » Sun Jul 16, 2006 9:08 pm

DrDrrae wrote:I don't really like them. They look to sharp. The ones I made are softer (except for the orange admin rank) Did you make those yourself, though?
No, I didn't make them, they were d/l from phpBB site about 4 years ago.

I don't see what you mean too sharp?
Do you mean the lighter color on top of the bar on the ones you made?
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Post by André » Sun Jul 16, 2006 9:41 pm

I mean they sort of stick out like a sore thumb. They aren't clean looking.
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Post by Dreamer » Sun Jul 16, 2006 10:09 pm

DrDrrae wrote:
Rank names are quite unclear. Wannabe Spammer and Spammer?? looks like a joke, but I'm not sure about it...
These were left over from a few administrations ago (Not SweetLou). Let's just say his lack of undserstanding of English created a language barrier.
I don't like ranks like "Spammer" and "Avantic", it should be more common IMO, we have 2 browsers now and browser name could be changed in the future MAYBE (I mean IE+Gecko browser).
DrDrrae wrote:
Rank images are even more unclear, e.g. Newbie and Avantic Deluxe (extra) - Image Image
I think the rank titles will explain it enough. If the person really cares, though. They can searh the forum for an explanation on the ranks. (They should have already read the threads in the announcement section anyway before posting anyway even though they don't)
This is it - person doesn't care, doesn't search for more information, he just see the image and it looks as newbie... Of course, it's not very important, it's just a bit useful sometimes, but could be confusing. It has nothing to do with me, I don't need any rank, image or so...
hornakapopolis wrote:Besides, if anyone is really just having a forum-rank-placed-somewhere-twice away from having their ego sated, I think the rest of us could live with that, couldn't we? And if someone really thinks we're pretentious by having it there twice, then they're probably not the type of person that would make me care about their opinions anyhow.
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Post by Dreamer » Sun Jul 16, 2006 10:17 pm

angeldust wrote:I think that the mods should be a darker green & support staff the current light green helps to identify them upon a quick glance.
Just my Canuck 2¢ worth. :)
I agree.

WebGuy - Idea is good, but I agree with DrDrrae, also colors are not similar to admin/mod phpBB colors.

Something between would be best - DrDrrae's colors (maybe 3 not 2 colors) and WebGuy's system.
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Post by bigC » Sun Jul 16, 2006 10:55 pm

Dreamer wrote:Something between would be best - DrDrrae's colors (maybe 3 not 2 colors) and WebGuy's system.
I'd like to see how that would look... Up for it Drd?

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Post by André » Sun Jul 16, 2006 11:08 pm

I think I may try it. I just got back inside from cutting my neighbors and my lawn and need something to do that requires little moving as I am sweating like a pig.
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Post by Dreamer » Mon Jul 17, 2006 12:47 am

OK, so if you could try it, maybe darker/"harder" color for higher ranks would be nice and intuitive, something like this, but other colors - Image Image - hope you know what I mean. Good night.
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Post by André » Mon Jul 17, 2006 3:48 am

Ok, I made a new set but I only made the main ones so far (not the special ones). I'm not sure if I like them yet. We'll see.

I would like to get your opinions on them.

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Re: New Ranks Discussion

Post by KY Dave » Mon Jul 17, 2006 12:02 pm

Those look fine and they will indicate the users' post count without any confusion.

It was the position title in the rank image that I thought didn't look right with the title also directly above when the rank image is displayed in the forum.

Any ideas on what to use to indicate ADMIN, MODs and other special ranks?
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Post by bigC » Mon Jul 17, 2006 7:16 pm

DrDrrae wrote:I would like to get your opinions on them.

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These seem a bit too dark. I prefer your current ones Dr d :wink:

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