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Make System Buttons movable

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 11:24 am
by ElimGarak
I REALLY hate the new position of this buttons. Keep trying to close tabs in upper right corner (I show open tabs at the bottom) and everytime I risk to close whole Avant instead.


Now they steal room for my tabs and are too little. Moreover, with tabs at the bottom, the right bottom corner is "stuffed" with icons.

PLEASE, give us the choice to put them where we want. Don't make this a second "groups" thread.

I made this sticky because I got tired of looking for it! Sara :mrgreen:

Re: Buttons in top right..

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 7:34 pm
by bigC
I've split your post to its own topic as it doesn't really belong in that other thread.

I don't like the system buttons merged with the window tab bar either and I support the idea to make them movable once again.

Note: as a workaround, there is an add-on button available that can be used to close the current tab. See here,
http://forum.avantbrowser.com/viewtopic ... 401#122401

Re: Make system buttons movable

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 8:56 pm
by Sara
I will add my distress over the system buttons here as well. They take up needed room on the tab bar when there is a blank space waiting for them on the toolbar.

Sara :?

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:23 pm
by ABman
I also agree with the above posts. I much prefer them on the tool bar, as they were before. If for some reason this is now not possible then putting them on the status bar would be better than on the tabs bar. But then I suppose not everyone displays the status bar.

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 5:20 am
by bladedone
i also agree. i don't even use the tabs toolbar as i can switch using the system buttons. if they remain attached to the tabs bar i am probably going to uninstall avant. it is one of the features that attracted me in the first place. i just don't use tab toolbars at all. i guess i will be checking on another browser. i hate that because avant has been my favorite browser for over a year. up until i installed the new build... if i could get the build i had b4 this one... i would revert. i hope the system buttons become movable again... i really do.

Re: Make system buttons movable

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 7:49 am
by Sara

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 7:55 am
by bassiliin
my vote goes also to make these buttons movable

Re: Make system buttons movable

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 10:04 am
by robc
Yes, the point is to make them movable AND allow them to be placed ALSO on the tab bar (where I mostly enjoy them), not reverting to the previous solution where they were stuck to the toolbar lines: if it were for me, I' d allow any toolbar or menu bar to dock on the same line as the tabs.

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 11:51 am
by ElimGarak
For Sara: Thank you, but I'd prefer not to revert to a previous version. I like this one, except for this buttons.

For Robc: Yes, it's exactly what I mean. We should have the choice.

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 7:35 pm
by bigC
bladedone wrote:i also agree. i don't even use the tabs toolbar as i can switch using the system buttons. if they remain attached to the tabs bar i am probably going to uninstall avant. it is one of the features that attracted me in the first place. i just don't use tab toolbars at all. i guess i will be checking on another browser. i hate that because avant has been my favorite browser for over a year. up until i installed the new build... if i could get the build i had b4 this one... i would revert. i hope the system buttons become movable again... i really do.
Well if you don't want buttons at all just shut them off... View > Customize buttons > Other buttons

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 1:43 pm
by bladedone
mr. big? maybe if you read my post... you would understand what i am stating. i do not use tab bars. i navigate tabs with the system buttons. i do want buttons. i am well aware of how to shut them off. so one more time. ok? TABS. i do not use. BUTTONS. i do use. since the buttons are attached to the tab toolbar... that really defeats the purpose of the way i use the browser. by using the buttons i have one less toolbar taking up space. which again... is what attracted me to avant in the first place.

sara. thank you very much for the link you posted. very considerate.

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 2:57 pm
by Dreamer
I understand what you (all) mean here. Even if I'm using tab-bar and I like the current bahavior, there should be an option with the old behavior.

Perhaps the best solution - and also easy to implement would be another system buttons bar, the same as in older versions, but the current behavior should be preserved too. There will be the following buttons in "Customize buttons" > "Other buttons" dialog:

For the system buttons bar:

Minimize
Restore
Close
...

For the tab bar (current):

Tab-Minimize
Tab-Restore
Tab-Close
...

It would be the same as New window button now, everyone will choose where he wants to place those buttons.

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 7:36 pm
by bigC
bladedone wrote:mr. big? maybe if you read my post...
I did read your post, I just misunderstood you. I apologise...

Re: Make system buttons movable

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 7:54 pm
by Wastrel
Well, I guess I'm going to have to agree with everyone in this thread. Keep the buttons moveable, PLEASE.

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 3:53 am
by hornakapopolis
I get the feeling that Anderson keeps his tabs at the top of the browser. I just don't understand how anyone who keeps the tabs at the bottom would even consider attaching them solely to the tabs bar.

Re: Make system buttons movable

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 12:54 pm
by cliffyk
I agree, the positioning of those controls and the washed out colours of the toolbar buttons (which is just faddish adherence to Microsoft's trendiness) are my only complaints about the new version...

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 1:03 pm
by ADukes
hornakapopolis wrote:I just don't understand how anyone who keeps the tabs at the bottom would even consider attaching them solely to the tabs bar.
Not to the tabs bar, but to the links bar which is also at the bottom.

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 5:31 pm
by adli89
I agree to change back the position to where it used to be. I place my window tabs at the bottom.. :( I used avant browser years ago and I find improvements made are really nice! Only some minor changes makes me feel not used to it.. But it's not big deal actually for me..

Re: Make system buttons movable

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 8:06 pm
by josephrot
RE: << AB 11.5 B8 -- the system buttons >>

I agree as well.

It's OK to place them elsewhere than the upper right as they were located in older versions, but at least make them movable.

As it is now, users are right: The new ideas in AB 11.5 may be interesting, but now "nothing" is user-adjustable hardly at all, or at least not like what made older AB versions the cream of the crop.

Two steps ahead, one giant step back.

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 9:02 pm
by hornakapopolis
ADukes wrote:
hornakapopolis wrote:I just don't understand how anyone who keeps the tabs at the bottom would even consider attaching them solely to the tabs bar.
Not to the tabs bar, but to the links bar which is also at the bottom.
No, I was commenting on how I think it's odd that they would be made the way they are now. I don't mind them as much (Actually, I don't care at all) because I keep my tabs at the top. Moving them to the bottom, however seems like a completely weird place to have the System Bar buttons.