Two AB issues: Gmail Notifier and Blue Frog

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Two AB issues: Gmail Notifier and Blue Frog

Post by vicntc » Fri Apr 28, 2006 1:10 am

Issue 1: I have been using Avant Browser (AB) and the handy Gmail notifier utility (GNU) for some time without incident. A build or two ago, GNU started having disagreements with AB. When I select "View Inbox", I would get the tab labelled GMail and a white screen that said "Loading..."

If I typed in the address manually, it worked fine. I have gone back to 10.1 Build 38 and it is working again. Any ideas why it stops in later builds?

Issue 2: Blue Security "Blue Frog" applet...

I started using this security/spam tool recently and have been quite impressed/happy. It supports both desktop (eg Eudora) and web based email applications (such as Gmail, Yahooe, Hotmail, etc).

When I use IE6 directly, the applet appears and functions correctly.
When I use AB, the web mail client works, but the applet never appears.

http://www.bluesecurity.com/solutions/consumer.asp

Has anyone tried/used this applet?
Does anyone have any suggestions on what to look for in AB set-up to see what differs between AB and IE6 (that allows the applet to run)?

Thanks in advance for any assitance with either issue.
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Post by abfan123 » Fri Apr 28, 2006 6:14 am

Hello,
About the GMail notifier issue,Can you please try it with the ads blocker disabled? (Un-check it in the "Tools" menu.)
About the second issue,Do you have both Sun JVM & MS JVM installed?
If yes then Avant is using the MS JVM unless you manually uninstall it.
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Post by vicntc » Fri Apr 28, 2006 3:16 pm

abfan123 wrote:Hello,
About the GMail notifier issue,Can you please try it with the ads blocker disabled? (Un-check it in the "Tools" menu.)
About the second issue,Do you have both Sun JVM & MS JVM installed?
If yes then Avant is using the MS JVM unless you manually uninstall it.
Please refer to this thread.
Issue 1: AD Blocker
- Will Do. I'll get back to you on this.

Issue 2: Is there an easy way to tell which JVM is used/installed?
- IE6 alone works fine with Blue Frog. Wouldn't IE and AB use the same JVM?
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Post by Sergei » Fri Apr 28, 2006 3:24 pm

vicntc wrote:Issue 2: Is there an easy way to tell which JVM is used/installed?
Use this: http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml

If you have XP though you shouldn't have Microsoft's JVM. It was removed in Service Pack 2.

vicntc wrote:- IE6 alone works fine with Blue Frog. Wouldn't IE and AB use the same JVM?
It's an oddity of Avant, nobody really knows why! I guess the Microsoft JVM was preferred when it was first designed.
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Post by vicntc » Sat Apr 29, 2006 3:26 am

Sergei wrote:
vicntc wrote:Issue 2: Is there an easy way to tell which JVM is used/installed?

Use this: http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml

If you have XP though you shouldn't have Microsoft's JVM. It was removed in Service Pack 2.

According to the above noted test site, I am using Sun Java Vm 1.5.0_06
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Re: Two AB issues: Gmail Notifier and Blue Frog

Post by Sergei » Sat Apr 29, 2006 7:42 pm

I can't fully test Blue Frog because it crashes IE 7 beta, but it does run in Firefox. I don't believe it uses Java at all, and I'm not sure how this conclusion was reached. Perhaps your were misled by the term 'applet', Abfan. I think it would more correctly be called a Browser Helper Object.

I think vicntc was referring to the floating toolbar that it launches when you go into the spam folder of a webmail site. I don't know how this works but I would not be surprised if it did depend on the IE shell, which would explain why it doesn't work with Avant. Avant is an alternative shell for IE.


I'm pretty dubious that Blue Frog is a good idea in the first place though. The trouble is, a lot of spam contains genuine links to honest web sites, to fool the recipient into thinking they're legit. Therefore Blue Frog could end up sending irrelevent warnings to innocent people - making them spammers! After all, any automated e-mail is spam, even if it's "good".
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Post by Circumlocutus » Wed May 03, 2006 12:05 am

Some things of note.

HpHosts - http://www.hosts-file.net - has Blue Security in their HOSTS files, I asked them about this, and they will be removing it in the next release.

An interesting article on Blue Frog, It seems that some spammers may be able to get Blue Frog users email addresses from Blue Security's Cease & Desist notices.
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