Title position in Tabs of 11.7 is lowser than 11.6

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Title position in Tabs of 11.7 is lowser than 11.6

Post by matsuda0707 » Fri Sep 05, 2008 10:44 pm

As attached screenshot, the tab title is displayed vertically lower in 11.7 than that of 11.6. I pointed out this in previous 11.7 alpha and beta versions.

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Re: Title position in Tabs of 11.7 is lower than 11.6

Post by matsuda0707 » Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:31 pm

The newest 11.7 build 8 still has this problem!!!!

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Re: Title position in Tabs of 11.7 is lowser than 11.6

Post by matsuda0707 » Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:21 pm

I installed 11.7 build 9 now, but the tabs still go down !!!Why is this not fixed?

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Re: Title position in Tabs of 11.7 is lowser than 11.6

Post by scubamaster » Thu Sep 11, 2008 3:22 pm

I guess it's not fixed because not everybody has that problem. I for example don't. I suspect it has to do with the skin you are using. Try another one and see if it still has the problem.

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Re: Title position in Tabs of 11.7 is lowser than 11.6

Post by tuck » Thu Sep 11, 2008 4:13 pm

Or... have you customized the size of text or anything else within Windows?

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Re: Title position in Tabs of 11.7 is lowser than 11.6

Post by matsuda0707 » Fri Sep 12, 2008 1:57 pm

I have used customized skin since 11.5 and 11.6, but after using 11.7 alpha and beta, this problem occured. When I go back to 11.6 (re-install), this error disappeared !!!
I also tried to change interface language from Japanese to English, but it still exists. I have not changed any Windows display parameters (font, font size,etc.), but this tab problem occurs in 11.7.

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Re: Title position in Tabs of 11.7 is lowser than 11.6

Post by bigC » Fri Sep 12, 2008 6:57 pm

matsuda0707 wrote:I have used customized skin since 11.5 and 11.6, but after using 11.7 alpha and beta, this problem occured. When I go back to 11.6 (re-install), this error disappeared !!!
I also tried to change interface language from Japanese to English, but it still exists. I have not changed any Windows display parameters (font, font size,etc.), but this tab problem occurs in 11.7.
Did it go away when you change skins in 11.7?

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Re: Title position in Tabs of 11.7 is lowser than 11.6

Post by matsuda0707 » Fri Sep 12, 2008 11:03 pm

No. It still exists even I installed AB after removing my customized skins.

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Re: Title position in Tabs of 11.7 is lowser than 11.6

Post by matsuda0707 » Sat Sep 13, 2008 2:27 am

I tried 11.7 on my another PC, but the result was the same. As attached screenshot, only the tab bar shows title in lower position, and other bar such as google, links,menu are shown in vertically central position.
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Re: Title position in Tabs of 11.7 is lowser than 11.6

Post by matsuda0707 » Thu Sep 18, 2008 4:11 pm

This still remains in AB 11.7 build 10.
Why does it disappear when I go back to previous AB 11.6?

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Re: Title position in Tabs of 11.7 is lowser than 11.6

Post by ABman » Thu Sep 18, 2008 7:38 pm

Have you tried moving the tabs to the bottom, just to see if it makes any difference (probably won't)?

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Re: Title position in Tabs of 11.7 is lowser than 11.6

Post by matsuda0707 » Fri Sep 19, 2008 2:16 am

Yes! But the result is same! I can not understand why 11.6 shows tabs normally. This also happens in Orca 1.1! So some common features affect the tab position.
I remember that the first version of Orca showed tabs normally, but 1.1 shows them in lower position.

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Re: Title position in Tabs of 11.7 is lowser than 11.6

Post by robc » Fri Sep 19, 2008 7:55 am

By any chance, did you change your screen resolution (DPI)? This looks like one of the usual problems occurring when the screen DPI are changed from the standard setting of 96. If you look closer, you'll note that it's not really the title that's lower, but the button that's bigger in height, with Avant's UI cropping its lower part and making the title appear nearer to the border.

Even if you didn't change anything recently, you may still have a setting different than 96 and Avant may have started recognizing that setting only in one of the last builds for some reason, drawing correctly bigger buttons but not having the rest of the UI resize accordingly. Check (under Vista) Control Panel|Personalization|Adjust Font Size (DPI). Really, this seems it... also looking from the size of your menu Font which looks more like it was 120 DPI.
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Re: Title position in Tabs of 11.7 is lowser than 11.6

Post by matsuda0707 » Fri Sep 19, 2008 9:34 am

Thanks for good hints!

As you say, I changed 96 DPI to 120 DPI since last September (2007) as I bought 1920x1200 LCD. In normal operation, 96 DPI looks very smaller and so I changed to 120 DPI.
But I used AB 11.6 in 120 DPI since last September and it shows tabs normally, and I upgraded to 11.7 and then tabs are shown in lower position!
I checked AB 11.7 tabs in 96 DPI and it looks normal as AB 11.6 as attached file.
But I can noit understand why 11.6 shows tabs normally but 11.7 shows in lower position in 120 DPI display!
As this problem takes so long time, I must decide to use 120 or 96 DPI.
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Re: Title position in Tabs of 11.7 is lowser than 11.6

Post by ABman » Fri Sep 19, 2008 10:06 am

I was in a similar position having bought a 1600x1200 resolution which made everything way too small. For surfing I now use 1024x768 (on the same machine) but I have permanently set the following:
font size/large - dpi/large(120dpi) and I have no problem with the wording height on the tabs, I'm running 11.7 build 11.

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Re: Title position in Tabs of 11.7 is lowser than 11.6

Post by robc » Fri Sep 19, 2008 10:45 am

As I said in my post, it might well be some modification in one of the last betas that started it (or even some new default behavior of the development tool used by Anderson, without any modification to the Avant source code).

I've been seeing problems with changing DPI since it was first possible (Windows 95? I've forgotten...): it is a system-wide settings, but applications should take care of A LOT of things to make things work when it changes; UIs must be designed for several sizes (I mean sizes of titles, bars, buttons, etc., not just the window) and I've seen most apps fail in some way when DPI is not set to 96. I strongly suggest to let it at the default setting of 96 and change single parts of the UI (e.g. increase font size only etc.) where necessary.
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Re: Title position in Tabs of 11.7 is lowser than 11.6

Post by robc » Fri Sep 19, 2008 10:49 am

ABman, you're on XP and he's on Vista...
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Re: Title position in Tabs of 11.7 is lowser than 11.6

Post by matsuda0707 » Wed Apr 15, 2009 12:25 am

I found this is fixed on AB 11 build 26! But no release information for build 26!

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Re: Title position in Tabs of 11.7 is lowser than 11.6

Post by matsuda0707 » Wed Apr 15, 2009 3:46 am

Here I sent the snapshots of each AB build (tab23.jpg for build 23 and tab26.jpg for build 26). They are clealy different!
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