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flash 11.3 problem

Postby mathman » Fri Jun 29, 2012 12:03 am

The latest version of flash (11.3) has a problem (bug?) in the following combination:
Operating system - windows 7, browser - Firefox or Avant using Firefox rendering.
The problem is that streaming videos don't stream (try any Youtube video).

Peculiarities: not a problem with windows xp, or windows 7 with chrome or Avant using IE rendering.

My personal solution - use flash 10.3 with Firefox - minor nuisance: I have to do the replacement every day, since Adobe keeps updating it (overnight?) back to 11.3.

I reported the problem to Adobe within the last couple of days. I suppose they will eventually get around to fixing it.
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Re: flash 11.3 problem

Post Reply #1 by AbelAbel » Fri Jun 29, 2012 3:08 am

My personal solution - use flash 10.3 with Firefox - minor nuisance: I have to do the replacement every day, since Adobe keeps updating it (overnight?) back to 11.3.

I remembered there is somewhere can disable the auto-update of flash player.
See here:http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/administration-configure-auto-update-notification.html
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Re: flash 11.3 problem

Post Reply #2 by mathman » Sat Jun 30, 2012 12:51 am

AbelAbel wrote:
My personal solution - use flash 10.3 with Firefox - minor nuisance: I have to do the replacement every day, since Adobe keeps updating it (overnight?) back to 11.3.

I remembered there is somewhere can disable the auto-update of flash player.
See here:http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/administration-configure-auto-update-notification.html

I tried that, but Adobe ignored the setting and kept updating anyhow. Possibly the option to not update doesn't apply when they are introducing a new version and not simply fixing bugs.
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Re: flash 11.3 problem

Post Reply #3 by AXEMAN » Sat Jun 30, 2012 4:42 am

mathman wrote:
AbelAbel wrote:
My personal solution - use flash 10.3 with Firefox - minor nuisance: I have to do the replacement every day, since Adobe keeps updating it (overnight?) back to 11.3.

I remembered there is somewhere can disable the auto-update of flash player.
See here:http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/administration-configure-auto-update-notification.html

I tried that, but Adobe ignored the setting and kept updating anyhow. Possibly the option to not update doesn't apply when they are introducing a new version and not simply fixing bugs.

Hello bro can you block See here:[url=http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player auto update with your fire wall. Just a thought. :)
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Re: flash 11.3 problem

Post Reply #4 by Crazy_John » Sat Jun 30, 2012 12:42 pm

In windows XP control panel theres a flash player manager , open it , go to advanced tab and disable updates.
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In a page that has a flash video , right-click , global configurations , advanced tab and disable updates.
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Re: flash 11.3 problem

Post Reply #5 by mathman » Sat Jun 30, 2012 10:13 pm

Crazy_John wrote:In windows XP control panel theres a flash player manager , open it , go to advanced tab and disable updates.
Or
In a page that has a flash video , right-click , global configurations , advanced tab and disable updates.

Under windows xp there is no problem with Firefox + flash 11.3, only with Windows 7.

Note: Someone has a post describing the same problem in "Avant Browser Help".
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Re: flash 11.3 problem

Post Reply #6 by Crazy_John » Sun Jul 01, 2012 8:26 pm

My post was just about disable updates.

I said XP as a example , so that you can see if that exist in W7 also.
control panel theres a flash player manager
and
flash video , right-click

i was talking about use the version 10.3 or 11.2 and disable the updates .
If that versions work ok , after disable the updates you are ok until adobe release a fix.

Other way to disable it is ,run (search for it) :
C:\WINDOWS\system32\FlashPlayerApp.exe
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Re: flash 11.3 problem

Post Reply #7 by mathman » Sun Jul 01, 2012 9:26 pm

Crazy_John wrote:My post was just about disable updates.

I said XP as a example , so that you can see if that exist in W7 also.
control panel theres a flash player manager
and
flash video , right-click

i was talking about use the version 10.3 or 11.2 and disable the updates .
If that versions work ok , after disable the updates you are ok until adobe release a fix.

Other way to disable it is ,run (search for it) :
C:\WINDOWS\system32\FlashPlayerApp.exe

Your links don't seem to work.

I am using 10.3. I changed the option for updates to disable, but Adobe ignored it and updated anyhow. Another approach involved Secunia PSI, a code to handle updates. It also has an option to stop updates. That didn't work either.

So I have a nuisance of uninstalling 11.3 and installing 10.3 on a daily basis. Fortunately it only takes about 15 seconds, so I can live with it.
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Re: flash 11.3 problem

Post Reply #8 by xiaobing » Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:15 am

Try 2012 build 175
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Re: flash 11.3 problem

Post Reply #9 by mathman » Mon Jul 02, 2012 10:51 pm

xiaobing wrote:Try 2012 build 175

I'll give it a try, but I doubt if it will work. The problem is with the combination Windows 7 + Firefox + flash 11.3. Firefox can be either by itself or as rendering engine within Avant. In both cases the problem is the same.
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Re: flash 11.3 problem

Post Reply #10 by mbrazil » Tue Jul 03, 2012 12:27 am

There's a notice from Adobe regarding the problem at http://forums.adobe.com/message/4529383. One of the things it says in the notice is, "If you are interested in testing this build before it is publicly released, please send email to ccampbel@adobe.com."
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Re: flash 11.3 problem

Post Reply #11 by mathman » Tue Jul 03, 2012 2:34 pm

Latest (happy?) event in this story. Adobe installed flash 11.3 overnight as usual, but did not remove flash 10.3. When I tried to get a streaming video it did not work, as usual.

However I disabled Flash 11.3 and streaming video then worked properly. This applied both to Firefox and to Avant with Firefox rendering. Each had to have Flash 11.3 disabled separately.
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Re: flash 11.3 problem

Post Reply #12 by mathman » Wed Jul 04, 2012 1:27 pm

Slightly bad news. Adobe is back to its old ways. Flash 10.3 got removed and I had to go back to the old routine - uninstall 11.3 and install 10.3.
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Re: flash 11.3 problem

Post Reply #13 by AbelAbel » Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:28 am

Do you have real player in your computer? Try to disable the realplayer record/download function .
Or try to change the http to https
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Re: flash 11.3 problem

Post Reply #14 by mathman » Fri Jul 06, 2012 12:48 am

AbelAbel wrote:Do you have real player in your computer? Try to disable the realplayer record/download function .
Or try to change the http to https

I have realplayer and I use it to download streaming videos. The problem is before realplayer comes into play. It is the combination Windows 7 - Firefox (or Avant - Firefox rendering) - Flash 11.3 only. Replace Firefox with Chrome or IE and the problem does not appear. Replace Flash 11.3 with Flash 10.3 (my solution) and the problem goes away. On my old machine I have Windows XP and the problem does not appear.

I have also encountered streaming videos which have built in download blocks. These will show up, except for the troublesome combination, even though they can't be downloaded by realplayer.
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Re: flash 11.3 problem

Post Reply #15 by Crazy_John » Fri Jul 06, 2012 3:26 pm

mathman wrote:
Crazy_John wrote:My post was just about disable updates.

I said XP as a example , so that you can see if that exist in W7 also.
control panel theres a flash player manager
and
flash video , right-click

i was talking about use the version 10.3 or 11.2 and disable the updates .
If that versions work ok , after disable the updates you are ok until adobe release a fix.

Other way to disable it is ,run (search for it) :
C:\WINDOWS\system32\FlashPlayerApp.exe

Your links don't seem to work.

I am using 10.3. I changed the option for updates to disable, but Adobe ignored it and updated anyhow. Another approach involved Secunia PSI, a code to handle updates. It also has an option to stop updates. That didn't work either.

So I have a nuisance of uninstalling 11.3 and installing 10.3 on a daily basis. Fortunately it only takes about 15 seconds, so I can live with it.


Thats not links , its where its possible disable the flash updates.

•In control panel theres a flash player manager
http://www.spotht.com/2011/10/how-to-disable-flash-player-automatic.html
or
•Flash video , right-click , global configurations
or
•FlashPlayerApp.exe , mine is in C:\WINDOWS\system32\FlashPlayerApp.exe

control panel:
Image

Dont forget of use the flash uninstaller before install the version 10.3
http://download.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/support/uninstall_flash_player.exe
http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/uninstall-flash-player-windows.html
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Re: flash 11.3 problem

Post Reply #16 by mathman » Fri Jul 06, 2012 6:18 pm

Finally seems to be under control - see my last entry under "Bug Reports".
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Re: flash 11.3 problem

Post Reply #17 by mathman » Tue Jul 10, 2012 8:04 pm

Post script: If you look for Adobe Flash player in CNET you will find that 11.3 is universally condemned (by users) for being buggy.
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Re: flash 11.3 problem

Post Reply #18 by mbrazil » Tue Jul 10, 2012 9:18 pm

There are instructions from Mozilla for downgrading from Flash 11.3 to Flash 11.2 or Flash 10.3 at http://tinyurl.com/87em6y4.
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